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May 25, 2001
My EAA advisor gave me the name of a good man to do aircraft
welding, so I went out to look at John Murray's operation. He does lots
of aviation work, including engine mounts (a nontrivial thing to weld
up!) and many different parts - he showed me a scrap book of all the
aviation fuel tanks he's done. The picture below is in his shop,
and he's making a 60 gallon header tank for a Waco.

Another picture of his well-equipped shop:

And another showing him restoring a Waco airframe

He tests the tanks for leaks to 10g's. (If I do 10g's in an
801, it won't be the tanks I'm worried about!) I think he may be a handy guy to know on other things
besides the fuel tanks, so if the economics are there, I will
have him weld them. After talking to him, since he has the large
brake, shear, and beading equipment to make the job easy, I will just
supply him the materials and let him cut, bend, and weld the metal.
Welding and testing will take most of the time.
Aircraft Spruce recommends 5052-H32 aluminum (this is .032) for
fuel tanks, which is not what ZAC is using (.025) and this is what the
welder recommended as well. I think the thicker aluminum will
not be that much heavier, but will certainly do less oil canning.
I had a hard time finding the caps and necks for the tanks ZAC
supplies, but lo and behold, they are Piper vented caps, and I finally
found them at Wag-Aero. After doing some arithmetic on catalog entries
I found that the cost for both tanks will be:
Item |
Quantity |
Source |
Each |
Cost |
5052-H32
4x4 sheet aluminum |
1 |
Wicks |
$26.54 |
$26.54 |
Extra
aluminum needed |
1 |
John
Murray |
$13.00 |
$13.00 |
CAV110
drain valve |
2 |
Wicks |
$9.52 |
$19.04 |
3/8"
Aluminum flange AN867-3 |
2 |
Wicks |
$7.06 |
$14.12 |
1/8"
Aluminum flange AN867-1 |
2 |
Wicks |
$6.20 |
$12.40 |
Piper
flange vented gas cap |
2 |
Wag-Aero |
$9.75 |
$19.50 |
Filler
neck |
2 |
Wag-Aero |
$9.45 |
$18.90 |
Finger
Strainers 3/8" |
2 |
Wicks |
$7.27 |
$14.54 |
Gauge Senders
VDO 20-200 ohm |
2 |
Wicks |
$37.14 |
$74.28 |
Cork and
adhesive
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1 |
Art supply for
cork |
$18 |
$18.00 |
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Labor
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4.5 hours |
John Murray |
$40 / hr (est) |
$180.00 |
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Total |
$410.32 |
I am not including any hose and hose fittings here because I am not
going to use the hose, so if you are, you should include that for your
costs in order to compare it to the ZAC kit cost. The aux tanks from ZAC are exactly the same dimensions as
the main tanks, but they do not include the return line fitting, since
there is already one on the main tanks. I believe this says you
must use the main tanks before the aux tanks, at least for a while.
Also, I will have to make some U channel for the tank mounts, but I
can make that out of scrap.
June 15, 2001
Here are the finished the tanks:

In the picture, John is standing in front of 3 tanks - I loaned one of the ZAC main tanks to John for him
to use as a guide in making the others. I am delighted with
them! John is a fair guy, and a great craftsman. His
number is 636-398-4640 and his shop is a couple miles from the
Foristell VOR, about 35 miles west of the St. Louis arch. The
4x4 sheet was a bit short, as he needed another piece to make up two
tank sides. He charged me 4 1/2 hours labor, and added $13
for the extra aluminum.
A main tank from ZAC weighs 67.5 oz without the cap, finger
strainer, gauge sender, or hose fittings. The aux
tank weighs 78.7 oz without the cap, etc, a difference of 11.2 oz, or
just 16% more. This difference is because the ZAC tank includes a return fitting flange, which the aux tank does
not, and the aux tank is using .032 instead of .025 aluminum.
Maybe I should be using grams, in deference to the designer - ok, each
main tank is
1.914 kg, and each aux tank is 2.231 kg.
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